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		<title>Jeremy Camp &#8211; Speaking Louder Than Before Offer</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2009/01/10/jeremy-camp-speaking-louder-than-before-offer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received an email this morning stating that the MP3 version of Jeremy Camp&#8217;s latest album is available this weekend for $5.</p>

<p>If you&#8217;re a fan, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B001KSQ0SW/ref=nosim/brettveenstra-20">grab it here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Surviving the Technological Future</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2008/02/21/surviving-the-technological-future/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bud&#8217;s over at Geeks and God pointed me to this awesome video below. Jon makes a great followup to something Rob and MF already commented on for unplugging, and being there when you&#8217;re with real people, not your virtual friends. He also makes some resolutions about going &#8220;natural&#8221;, and finding a way to completely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bud&#8217;s over at <a href="http://geeksandgod.com">Geeks and God</a> <a href="http://geeksandgod.com/episode74">pointed me</a> to this awesome video below.
<a href="http://www.vimeo.com/421868"><img src="http://brettveenstra.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/surviningtechnologicalfuture-300x171.png" alt="" title="Resolution for Surviving the Future" width="300" height="171" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-325" /></a></p>

<p>Jon makes a great followup to something Rob and MF already commented on for <a href="http://geeksandgod.com/episode73">unplugging, and being there</a> when you&#8217;re with real people, not your virtual friends.</p>

<p>He also makes some resolutions about going &#8220;natural&#8221;, and finding a way to completely disconnect using nature.  I wish him well in this endeavor, must past <a href="http://bveenstra.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/how-long-would-you-last/">my estimated endurance of 3 days</a>.</p>
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		<title>Here&#8217;s&#8230; Bobby!</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2007/10/30/heres-bobby/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob&#8216;s back with an onslaught of good thoughts and opinion. He&#8217;s definitely writing at another level on this post. He apparently didn&#8217;t like the past comments, so they&#8217;re gone now, but I don&#8217;t really think anyone can read his stuff without some reaction (ergo, this post). It really is sad that we Christians (the big [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Photo Sharing" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/brettveenstra/1703289468/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2143/1703289468_72d95fbb07_m.jpg" alt="20071022-_MG_2988.jpg" width="240" height="160" align="left" /></a><strong><a href="http://bobchristenson.com">Bob</a>&#8216;s back</strong> with an <a href="http://bobchristenson.com/blog/2007/10/30/why-i-disappeared">onslaught of good thoughts and opinion</a>.  He&#8217;s definitely writing at another level on this post.</p>

<p>He apparently didn&#8217;t like the past comments, so they&#8217;re gone now, but I don&#8217;t really think anyone can read his stuff without some reaction (ergo, this post).</p>

<p>It really is sad that we Christians (the big we) get so jacked up about telling others they&#8217;re wrong instead of <span id="more-72"></span>focusing on loving others and perfecting <strong>ourselves</strong> through the example of Christ.  Simple really, but so hard on the daily grind.</p>
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		<title>1 Dollar Baby</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2007/10/22/1-dollar-baby/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kath and I rented Million Dollar Baby last week and I really didn&#8217;t know anything about it before then (other than it had a good review buzz around it). I remember thinking how beautiful of a movie it was while we watched; characters, imagery, themes, and the story was fantastic. The climax however, left a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kath and I rented <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405159/" title="IMDB - Million Dollar Baby">Million Dollar Baby</a> last week and I really didn&#8217;t know anything about it before then (other than it had a good review buzz around it).</p>

<p>I remember thinking how beautiful of a movie it was while we watched; characters, imagery, themes, and the story was fantastic.  The climax however, left a <span id="more-67"></span>terrible taste in my mouth and I couldn&#8217;t place it until just now.</p>

<p>This movie&#8217;s main focus was on the main character&#8217;s (Frankie&#8217;s) struggle to define herself through boxing.  You didn&#8217;t catch just how deep this point was until the accident, hospitalization and its remedy.  The message then rang out loud and clear: &#8220;She has no value other than boxing&#8221;.  So, if she cannot box, throw her away.   Now the director (Clint Eastwood) could have done this to provide support for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia">euthanasia</a>, or a host of other reasons, but the net effect is Frankie was de-valued in the end, by her only friend.</p>

<p>For me, my takeaway is how would I continue to love, care, and <strong>value </strong>someone in such a state.  Scary thought as it is&#8230;</p>

<p>Thank you Lord for protecting my friends and family, help me grow to value all the people you have placed in my life.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Church&#8221; is broken</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2007/05/27/church-is-broken/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 02:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok&#8230; so Bob&#8217;s latest thougths got this rant going, but this has been simmering for a while: The modern church today is totally broken. Not, just a little, not just &#8220;not perfect&#8221;.. BROKEN. The church should provide the following basic things: Edification: It is a meeting place for worshipers of The Almighty God &#8211; Father, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; so <a href="http://bobchristenson.com/node/525" title="Understanding is the bedrock of discussion">Bob&#8217;s latest thougths</a> got this rant going, but this has been simmering for a while:</p>

<p>The modern church today is <strong>totally broken</strong>.  Not, just a little, not just &#8220;not perfect&#8221;.. BROKEN.</p>

<p>The church should provide the following basic things:<span id="more-58"></span></p>

<ul>
    <li>Edification: It is a meeting place for worshipers of The Almighty God &#8211; Father, Son &amp; Holy Spirit.  It is where those who believe can come to be refreshed, challenged, and forgiven.</li>
    <li>Salvation: It is a hospital for broken lives. Messed up lives should feel welcomed to come and be loved and introduced to our Savior.</li>
    <li>Celebration: It is a mile marker for those on their walk with Christ.  People don&#8217;t have to start their walk &#8220;in the church&#8221;, or end their walk there, but their local church should serve as the touchstone of their spiritual lives and the community of the church itself.</li>
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<p>American churches (albeit I&#8217;ve attended only 15 in my lifetime) have got things wrong.  Some are exclusively focused on Edification.  Some are so concerned with Salvation that they miss how their congregation isn&#8217;t really &#8220;growing&#8221; spiritually, or de-emphasize those &#8220;crazy Christian events&#8221; so that we don&#8217;t confuse people.</p>

<p>We attended an amazing church today.  Not a perfect one by any stretch, but it was remarkable about how much they were focused on caring for the body of Christ (including us guests).  They were also confused and concerned about how their church seemed to be &#8220;dying out&#8221; in a neighborhood that needed Christ.  They are currently trying to invite the neighborhood into &#8220;normal&#8221; social events, just to get to know their neighbors and spend time with them.  I pray that the Holy Spirit gives them wisdom in this regard, their love and warmth for us this morning was overwhelming.</p>

<p>So what&#8217;s the big deal?  The Sunday morning church tries to jam everything in on a single service.  Let&#8217;s try to encourage believers, but not too much, because then visitors might feel uncomfortable with all the terminology.  Let&#8217;s keep it things simple when special events like baptism, confirmation, or new members join, I mean, we don&#8217;t want to cut into &#8220;regular church time&#8221;.</p>

<p>Doing something well, means doing something, not everything.  So here&#8217;s a proposal:</p>

<ul>
    <li>Churches would have a simple, short service focused on the salvation message.  This would be in the &#8220;slot&#8221; of the current worship service or services.  The format would be plain, the messages would be &#8220;baby&#8217;s milk&#8221; and the congregation who attended would be focused on praying and caring for those attending, and those they invited to attend.  Churches should also have frequent events <strong>throughout the week</strong> that bring the Gospel message directly to visitors and non-believers.</li>
    <li>Churches have a focused service for the attending believer, one in which the edification of the faithful is the exclusive priority of the service.  Topics would include such things as money, Bible study, service, sin, grace, God&#8217;s faithfulness, etc.  This would best take place during a Bible study slot, again on Sunday if there&#8217;s room on the schedule.</li>
    <li>Churches would literally throw parties.  I mean what do we do for the Super Bowl?  If the angels in heaven truly rejoice over one soul receiving Christ, why don&#8217;t we party for a baptism?  I think these are opportunities to celebrate God&#8217;s word on this earth &#8211; something we truly neglect as a church.</li>
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		<title>Poetry, the kind I could like&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2007/03/03/poetry-the-kind-i-could-like/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 06:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never got into poetry during my studies&#8230; perhaps I should have delved into satire more&#8230; here&#8217;s a great poem that I heard recently&#8230; I found the text here: (http://derekvreeland.blogspot.com/2006/08/if-chance-be-father-of-all-flesh.html) This is from the mind of Steve Turner (http://www.rejesus.co.uk/expressions/steve_turner): CREED We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin. We believe everything is OK as long as you don&#8217;t hurt [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got into poetry during my studies&#8230; perhaps I should have delved into satire more&#8230; here&#8217;s a great poem that I <a title="Ravi Zacharias Ministries" href="http://rzim.org">heard recently</a>&#8230; I found the text here: (http://derekvreeland.blogspot.com/2006/08/if-chance-be-father-of-all-flesh.html)</p>

<p>This is from the mind of Steve Turner (http://www.rejesus.co.uk/expressions/steve_turner):</p>

<p><strong>CREED</strong>
<em>We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin.
We believe everything is OK
as long as you don&#8217;t hurt anyone,
to the best definition of hurt,
and to the best of your </em><span id="more-55"></span><em>knowledge.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe in sex before, during and after marriage.
We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy&#8217;s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that everything&#8217;s getting better,
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that there&#8217;s something in horoscopes,
UFO&#8217;s and bent spoons;
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher although we think
His good morals were bad.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that all religions are basically the same &#8211;
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then it&#8217;s compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps
Hitler, Stalin and Genghis Khan.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe in Masters and Johnson.
What&#8217;s selected is average.
What&#8217;s average is normal.
What&#8217;s normal is good.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors
and the Russians would be sure to follow.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that man is essentially good.
It&#8217;s only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.</em></p>

<p><em>We believe in the rejection of creeds,
and the flowering of individual thought.</em></p>

<p>The problem with satire of course is that it is rather self-incriminating (and if you don&#8217;t find it so, re-read it again aloud).  <strong>God Help Us!</strong></p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Common Ground</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/07/daily-devo-common-ground/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Daily Bread had a timely devo this morning. I had left a comment yesterday that wasn&#8217;t trying to belittle vegetarians, but just have fun with my brother-in-law. It&#8217;s interesting to imagine trying to lead a vegetarian to Christ.In the devo, that&#8217;s exactly what Paul did. He took the perspective of the people he was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-09-07-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a> had a timely devo this morning.  I had left a comment yesterday that wasn&#8217;t trying to belittle vegetarians, but just have <a href="http://www.bobchristenson.com/node/309#comment-575">fun with my brother-in-law</a>.  It&#8217;s interesting to imagine trying to lead a vegetarian to Christ.<br /><br />In the devo, that&#8217;s exactly <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22-31;&amp;version=51;">what Paul did</a>.  He took the perspective of the people he was with and began making his way to Jesus.<br /><br />Prayer: Lord, thank you for giving me new friends and coworkers this year.  Help me to walk in their shoes so that the path to you would be easier.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: There&#8217;s Heaven</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/06/daily-devo-theres-heaven/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did an ODB today.The devotion was on the real place called heaven, and focused on the some of the physical elements that are shown to us now through the book of Revelation. I just can&#8217;t help thinking that this passage as it refers to the New Jerusalem is symbolic in nature. The other unfortunate part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.steelnstones.com/redjasper.jpg"><img style="float:left;cursor:pointer;width:200px;margin:0 10px 10px 0;" src="http://www.steelnstones.com/redjasper.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a>Did an <a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-09-06-06.shtml">ODB</a> today.<br /><br />The devotion was on the real place called heaven, and focused on the some of the physical elements that are shown to us now through the book of <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2022:1-5;&amp;version=51;">Revelation</a>.  I just can&#8217;t help thinking that this passage as it refers to the New Jerusalem is symbolic in nature.  The other unfortunate part is that I can imagine something looking nice, I just can&#8217;t imagine it with the eyes of John.  I mean, I don&#8217;t even know what Jasper looks like (until a little Googling)!<br /><br />I suppose I just have a <a href="http://bveenstra.blogspot.com/2006/01/heaven-is-scary.html">&#8220;non-optimal view&#8221; of heaven lately</a>.  It&#8217;s not like I don&#8217;t WANT to goto heaven.  In fact, the notion, of just &#8220;being&#8221; with Jesus is very comforting, but just heard to envision.  I guess that&#8217;s why we call it faith.<br /><br />Prayer:  Lord, help me to live in this reality, serving you.  Help me remember the next reality of being with you.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Something for Nothing</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/05/daily-devo-something-for-nothing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Daily Bread just rocks.This one centered on the hollow satisfaction of material things. I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I have always found it amazing that looking forward to getting something is so much greater than the actual USE of that something. Be it computer, flat-screen TV, video game, clothing, etc etc &#8211; the satisfaction just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-09-05-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a> just rocks.<br /><br />This one centered on the hollow satisfaction of material things.  I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I have always found it amazing that looking forward to getting something is so much greater than the actual USE of that something.  Be it computer, flat-screen TV, video game, clothing, etc etc &#8211; the satisfaction just doesn&#8217;t stay.  Maybe I&#8217;m just such a wretch that I find the down side (or the catch?) quickly.  I know that even if I <a href="http://www.apple.com/getamac/">bought a Mac</a>, it would still happen!<br /><br />More importantly is my lack of wanting to get satisified by what God has for me, in His timing.<br /><br />Prayer: Lord please help me to freely accept your Grace through Jesus.  Amen.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Abiding in Love</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/03/daily-devo-abiding-in-love/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did a little Devotions.net today. The reading was one of those where I think western (logic) culture translations doesn&#8217;t mix with eastern (wholistic) culture well.The takeaway of the devo is how Jesus is thhe means through which we humans learn about God. It reminded me of the first part of John, &#8220;In the beginning was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did a little <a href="http://www.devotions.net/devotions/09september/3.htm">Devotions.net</a> today.  The <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20John%204:16;&amp;version=51;">reading</a> was one of those where I think western (logic) culture translations doesn&#8217;t mix with eastern (wholistic) culture well.<br /><br />The takeaway of the devo is how Jesus is thhe means through which we humans learn about God.  It reminded me of the first part of John, &#8220;<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%201:1;&amp;version=31;">In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.</a>&#8221;  It&#8217;s amazing to think the Bible is the masterpiece of the Holy Spirit&#8217;s work pointing to Jesus, and how Jesus points to the Father.  The devo had a story about an amazing discovery once some light was shed in an ancient building.<br /><br />My biggest challenge is feeling that because I know I&#8217;m not loving at times (mostly), I must not be a Christian.  Very logical.  Or maybe I am being loving, but just don&#8217;t &#8220;feel&#8221; loving.  All very confusing sometimes.  When you read the context of the verse, I don&#8217;t really get much help &#8211; if I have fear, then I must not think God loves me &#8211; &#8220;there is no fear in love&#8221;.  So I guess this just means this is my growth area!<br /><br />Prayer: Father, please help me to love like your Son.  Spirit take over my mind so that I can love others better.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Indecency Confronted</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/02/daily-devo-indecency-confronted/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this morning I switched things up with a broader Google search of daily devotion. Desiring God sounded interesting and then it lead me to an article on why using sexuality in a public context is damaging to us as individuals and as a society.Just another conservative viewpoint bashing the mature liberals? Not really, John [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this morning I switched things up with a broader Google search of daily devotion.  Desiring God sounded interesting and then it lead me to an article on why using sexuality in a public context is damaging to us as individuals and as a society.<br /><br />Just another conservative viewpoint bashing the mature liberals?  Not really, John Piper lays out 9 points that make a lot of sense and he didn&#8217;t reference the Bible once in his argument.  From a Christian perspective that&#8217;s troubling because I feel that Biblical truth is the only kind that only gets stronger in an argument, but when you read it, you&#8217;ll understand.<br /><br />The point of growth in the article for me is that all too often I try filter something or avoid something because I can feel that it is not good for me or my family.  What I do <span style="font-weight:bold;">not</span> do however is ever revisit those moments to try and develop a rationality that I can latter teach to my kids or argue publicly.<br /><br />Since this devo didn&#8217;t contain any Bible reading, I went with an old standby pattern.  Reading the &#8220;Proverb of the Day&#8221;&#8230; since it&#8217;s September 2, I read <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs%202&amp;version=51">Proverbs 2</a>.  I had to laugh at the timing of God &#8211; this proverb deals with wisdom, turning from evil, and turning away from the immoral woman.<br /><br />Prayer:  Lord, thank you for putting your spirit within me to guard me from damaging influences.  Please keep me from laziness and remind me of the truth of your word to guide me, my family, and encourage my friends.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Anxiety &amp; Prayer</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/09/01/daily-devo-anxiety-prayer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Daily Bread did one on the &#8220;peace that passes all understanding&#8221;. I was reading it and thinking that it was nothing more than feel good psycho-babble at first. Then came the kicker: &#8220;As I prayed about the situation, my anxiety was replaced by His peace.&#8221;Oh how quickly I forget the true power and priveledge [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-09-01-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a> did one on the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians%204:4-13&amp;version=31;">&#8220;peace that passes all understanding&#8221;</a>.  I was reading it and thinking that it was nothing more than feel good psycho-babble at first.  Then came the kicker: &#8220;As I prayed about the situation, my anxiety was replaced by His peace.&#8221;<br /><br />Oh how quickly I forget the true power and priveledge of speaking with the one in charge of everything!<br /><br />Prayer: Heavenly Father, thank you for your power and the place you have put me.  Thank you for listening and loving me, please ease my fear of what your future has for me.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Last Word</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/08/31/daily-devo-last-word/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another Our Daily Bread: The Last Word.The reading was pretty good, Martha makes a great example of acting on faith that Jesus has the power over death. I also came away with a new realization of how much Martha (and assuming Mary and Lazarus) had learned about Jesus, and how much they believed.Prayer: Jesus, thank [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-08-31-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a>: The Last Word.<br /><br />The <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2011:17-27;&amp;version=51;">reading </a>was pretty good, Martha makes a great example of acting on faith that Jesus has the power over death.  I also came away with a new realization of how much Martha (and assuming Mary and Lazarus) had learned about Jesus, and how much they believed.<br /><br />Prayer: Jesus, thank you for ruling over all the world and my future.  Help me live my life with that in mind.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Persecution That Backfired</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/08/31/daily-devo-persecution-that-backfired/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading another Our Daily Bread.I learned something new about the persecution of the early church.I had a lunch a few weeks ago with someone who felt that the American &#8220;church&#8221; had it so good that we are losing what it really means to be Christian. I tend to agree, but I also think we suffer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading another <a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-08-30-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a>.<br /><br />I learned something new about the persecution of the early church.<br /><br />I had a lunch a few weeks ago with someone who felt that the American &#8220;church&#8221; had it so good that we are losing what it really means to be Christian.  I tend to agree, but I also think we suffer a different persecution: <a href="http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ambivalence">ambivalence</a>.<br /><br />There is so many do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts in our current society that it can cause fear, confusion, distraction, and diversion.  I mean, when do we actually stop talking about doing something and actually do it, bold and confident, and not concerned about upsetting another &#8220;believer&#8221; in our efforts to love someone.<br /><br />Granted, there are plenty of examples of doing something wrong in the name of Christ, but are those merely easy hurdles to keep us from doing the many &#8220;mundane&#8221; actions that would show others we love them only because we don&#8217;t have any fear anymore?  That&#8217;s the kind of persecution we&#8217;re under.  It&#8217;s elusive, it&#8217;s fuzzy, it&#8217;s a perfect ploy, and it works on me all the time.<br /><br />Prayer: Lord, thank you for securing my future.  Help me to live in that reality and love others, especially when its a hard, scary thought.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Psalm 17</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/08/29/daily-devo-psalm-17/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I used &#8220;Our Daily Bread&#8220;, which is a devo that my 95-year old Grandma uses. Yeah, I&#8217;m kicking it old school. The devo itself focused on the refuge of God, and was yet another contemporary piece looking back to the impact Hurricane Katrina had on people.The reading was from Psalm 17: 1-9. While reading [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I used &#8220;<a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb-08-29-06.shtml">Our Daily Bread</a>&#8220;, which is a devo that my 95-year old Grandma uses.  Yeah, I&#8217;m kicking it old school.  The devo itself focused on the refuge of God, and was yet another contemporary piece looking back to the impact Hurricane Katrina had on people.<br /><br />The reading was from <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2017:1-9;&amp;version=51;">Psalm 17: 1-9</a>.  While reading this I couldn&#8217;t stop thinking, &#8220;How can David speak so proudly about how obedient he was to God?&#8221;.  I mean, when you say, &#8220;My steps have stayed on your path; I have not wavered from following you.&#8221;, that&#8217;s pretty bold.<br /><br />Takeaway: My biggest struggle is seeing God as my only refuge, as I tend to &#8220;suck it up&#8221; when I&#8217;m faced when big things and just do more/faster.  Maybe if I acted more like my kids and went to my father, I would feel less stressed and have a better relationship with him.<br /><br />Prayer: God, help me be a kid again.  Remind me to lean on you and not on my own abilities for the challenges I face.  Thank you for being my perfect, loving father.</p>
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		<title>Daily Devo: Prov 28</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok&#8230; this is getting ridiculous&#8230;In an effort to commit myself to daily devos, I&#8217;m blogging it. If you don&#8217;t see an entry every day, BUG ME ABOUT IT!Today&#8217;s Passage: Proverbs 28 the CEV version is also good.This really focused on those who desired wealth and/or power. Since I can get sucked away into that thinking, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; this is getting ridiculous&#8230;<br /><br />In an effort to commit myself to daily devos, I&#8217;m blogging it.  If you don&#8217;t see an entry every day, BUG ME ABOUT IT!<br /><br />Today&#8217;s Passage: <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs%2028&amp;version=51">Proverbs 28</a> the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs%2028;&amp;version=46;">CEV version</a> is also good.<br /><br />This really focused on those who desired wealth and/or power.  Since I can get sucked away into that thinking, God has provided yet another timely of His priorities vs. mine.  When He says &#8220;It&#8217;s better to be poor and honest, than rich and crooked.&#8221; (v6), I wonder just how much I&#8217;m willing to trust that statement.  It&#8217;s easy to be lazy here and think I&#8217;m ok just because I haven&#8217;t embezzled, or lie, or tricked someone out of their inheritance, but it goes more to the point of just what am I looking to do with &#8220;riches&#8221;.  That was the convicting part of the passage.<br /><br />What&#8217;s amazing is that the gospel message is stuck here in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs%2028:13;&amp;version=51;">v13</a>.<br /><br />Prayer: Lord, change my thoughts and desires to you.  Help me to give up the things that keep me from following you.  Thank you for your undeserved mercy.</p>
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		<title>Book Review: Angels &amp; Demons</title>
		<link>http://brettveenstra.com/2006/06/15/book-review-angels-demons/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suspense, Mystery, Action, Faith, Science, History, Corruption, Conspiracy. Dude, what&#8217;s not to like?!This was probably the funnest book I&#8217;ve read that took so dumb long to read (6 months). The last 100 pages finally hooked me in for the sit down, but I really did think it was good before that.There are several plot threads [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671027360.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg"><img style="float:left;cursor:pointer;width:200px;margin:0 10px 10px 0;" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671027360.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />Suspense, Mystery, Action, Faith, Science, History, Corruption, Conspiracy.  Dude, what&#8217;s not to like?!<br /><br />This was probably the funnest book I&#8217;ve read that took so dumb long to read (6 months).  The last 100 pages finally hooked me in for the sit down, but I really did think it was good before that.<br /><br />There are several plot threads that culminate in climaxes at different points, and I particularly enjoyed the questions Dan Brown raised and points strung throughout.<br /><br />Of particular note:<br /></p>

<ul><li>Science and religion (more specifically Christianity) often are portrayed at being at war with each other</li><li>Dan Brown I think makes a huge argument FOR faith, and specifically Christianity many times throughout the book &#8211; and I thought he was the enemy!  <img src='http://brettveenstra.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li></ul>

<p>Fun read, check it out.</p>
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		<title>The truth is&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that truth is hard to come by in this new age. We have a multitude of information at our fingertips, more exposure to other cultures and points of view and yet truth seems to be hidden. Not because people are actually trying to hide the truth, but rather there is so much noise out there [...]]]></description>
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that truth is hard to come by in this new age.  We have a multitude of information at our fingertips, more exposure to other cultures and points of view and yet truth seems to be hidden.  Not because people are actually trying to hide the truth, but rather there is so much noise out there that the truth gets buried&#8230;</p>

<p>You&#8217;ve also got the folks that are &#8220;plural truth&#8221; (hey dude, your truth and my truth can live together), or you get absolute truth thrust at you from different camps of people (including us Christians).  Then you&#8217;ve got the folks suggestng that there&#8217;s an alternative truth (shout outs to D. Brown).  This always seems more pronounced during an election year, and I don&#8217;t even know why I&#8217;m letting politicians get me lit up about this, but whenever the two sides are claiming truth on an issue, obviously they aren&#8217;t telling us the truth.</p>

<p>WAY Back (I&#8217;m talking early &#8217;90s era), I was at a luncheon where the presenter said that the rate of information was doubling every 15 years.  Guess what?  <a href="http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/projects/how-much-info-2003/execsum.htm">It&#8217;s now doubling every three years &#8211; and that report is three years old!</a> According to that report, we&#8217;re churning out as much noise, er, information the size of &#8220;all the words ever spoken by human beings&#8221; (which is 5 EXAbytes).</p>

<p>Q: Why am I being so technical and non-sensical?
A: (1) I am geek, and (2) if you can&#8217;t filter through the information, you&#8217;re not setting yourself up for success in this new age.</p>

<p>CONCLUSION TO POST (shortcut for the ADHD afflicted)
Most importantly, with the amount of information noise that is being generated, it will most likely by noted by the time my Grandkids are in high school that the Sacred Chalice of the Holy Grail is in fact, Mary Magadelene, wife of Jesus of Nazareth.  Will our new society have the patience enough to wait for the truth to prove itself, or only go by what is <a href="http://www.google.com/">G-dexed</a>?</p>

<p>How &#8217;bout you?  Are you spending time in the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/usage/votd/rss/votd.rdf?31">truth</a>?</p>

<p>[originally cooked up: 3/26/06]</p>
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		<title>Book Review: Barbarian Way</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just finished a great book lent to me by my friend KC: The Barbarian Way. I connected with this book immediately. Particularly challenging and exciting was reading someone who was describing the kind of faith I had during my teen years. Wild, reckless, risk-taking, total Spirit-in-the-Wind, which seems so very scary to consider now. Hmmm&#8230; [...]]]></description>
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Just finished a great book lent to me by my friend KC: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785264329/sr=8-1/qid=1148345780/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4223680-5489555?%5Fencoding=UTF8">The Barbarian Way</a>.</p>

<p>I connected with this book immediately.  Particularly challenging and exciting was reading someone who was describing the kind of faith I <span style="font-weight:bold;">had</span> during my teen years.  Wild, reckless, risk-taking, total Spirit-in-the-Wind, which seems so very scary to consider now.  Hmmm&#8230;</p>

<p>It&#8217;s only about 140 pages<span id="more-25"></span>, meaning some of you can read it in an afternoon.  I think he dictated the last chapter in one sitting because it just flew on by with a lot of motivation and theory.  The prior 3 chapters however are full of Biblically-based fundamental ideas and challenges&#8230; much like what I was trying to do in this post: <a href="http://bveenstra.blogspot.com/2006/03/where-are-jonathans.html">Where are the Jonathans</a>?  It was so refreshing to read someone who had practical, radical ideas about what&#8217;s broken with American Christianity and actually used the Scripture as his foundation and guidance for answers.</p>

<p>Obviously using the barbaric references infers warfare.  McManus expands his war, tribe, barbarian themes to poignant examples using himself, his family and others in his congregation.</p>

<p>Here&#8217;s some quotes that have got me thinking and praying:</p>

<blockquote><span style="font-size:85%;">&#8220;If you are a follower of Christ and you have allowed yourself to be domesticated, you have lost the power of who you are and who God intends for you to be.  You were not created to be normal&#8230;You must go to the primal place and enter the presence of the Most High God, for there you will be changed by His presence.&#8221;</span></blockquote>

<p>another boom:</p>

<blockquote><span style="font-size:85%;">&#8220;The suffering of Christ glorifies God because it elevates love.  Compelled by love, God would go where He knew suffering was certain.  Love always moves to sacrifice, which is exactly where He calls us to go.  We shouldn&#8217;t be surprised, then, that to follow Christ is to abandon the luxury of safety and security.  If we are to be like Him, we must always risk for love.  We are invited to follow Him with reckless abandon&#8230;Even when it seems beyond our abilities, we should not be surprised when God tells us to jump.&#8221;</span></blockquote>

<p>and finally:</p>

<blockquote><span style="font-size:85%;">&#8220;It may seem counterintuitive, but the more civilized we seem to become, the more detached from the pain of others we end up finding ourselves.  The most civilized churches have really no practical concern for people outside their congretations.  The brokeness of a lost and unbelieving world is not enough to inspire the painful changes necessary to make the church relevent to the world in which we live.&#8221;</span></blockquote>

<p>This was a great read, an inspiration for my walk, er, battle, and a first step to getting back the barbaric passion for my Savior.</p>
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		<title>Ob-ee-dee-nce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Veenstra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[note: this article intended to encourage/enrage those of us who are striving to walk the Christian life by giving money] My friend Dion ran an interesting series on forking over money to a local church. I&#8217;m not sure I can run a full-blown 3 part series of in-depth thought&#8230; wait&#8230; maybe&#8230; nope&#8230;I can&#8217;t&#8230;Give because God [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-size:78%;">[note: this article intended to encourage/enrage those of us who are striving to walk the Christian life by giving money]
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</span></span>My friend Dion ran an <a href="http://st-matthew.org/2006/02/why-i-give-reason-1.html">interesting series</a> on forking over money to a local church.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can run a full-blown 3 part series of in-depth thought&#8230; wait&#8230; maybe&#8230; nope&#8230;I can&#8217;t&#8230;<span id="more-21"></span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Give because God asked you to</span> (gotta love the K-ster&#8217;s frankness).</p>

<p>This is particularly easy to:</p>

<ol>
    <li>Do, but not as an act of worship</li>
    <li>Justify away, and not do</li>
</ol>

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1. Doing and no worship.  I fall into this one the most.  This goes like this&#8230; we setup a direct deposit account for all giving.  When I get paid, we never even see that money in the first place and just write checks throughout the year against it.  The downside is that I can forget to bring my soul to the obedience portion.  Right now, I can&#8217;t really see a problem with that because a) the worship for me came when the decision was made to give and how much and to fill out my form, b) obedience for me is not defined by emotion per se, but rather TRUST that doing something God&#8217;s way is best, even if I don&#8217;t want to.</p>

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<li>It is very easy to come up with reasons why I wouldn&#8217;t have enough money, let&#8217;s see:</li>
</ol>

<ul>
    <li>Need to buy a lunch because it&#8217;s too crazy in the morning</li>
    <li>Need to go out to dinner because it&#8217;s too crazy in the evening</li>
    <li>Need coffee in the morning to get me up</li>
    <li>Invisible Fencing needed to keep dog&#8217;s health up</li>
    <li>ReplayTV needed for when our old one dies</li>
    <li>ReplayTV for the bedroom</li>
    <li>Cable probably has better channels with the higher packages</li>
    <li>Internet <span style="font-style:italic;">(eek)</span> could be faster</li>
    <li>MacBook Pro</li>
    <li>Rackmounted Servers so that I can get them off the floor</li>
    <li>Better all-in-one printer so I can get that off the floor</li>
    <li>A fourth iPod</li>
    <li>A fifth PC</li>
    <li>Another LCD for the bedroom</li>
    <li>Yet another shelving solution for my crap, er, stuff</li>
</ul>

<p>Just in the making of my &#8220;wish list&#8221;, is rather annoying&#8230; my interests, and passions are totally selfish!  Some of the items on here are totally bogus, some are what I&#8217;m seriously considering&#8230;Have you ever considered what is on your &#8220;wish list&#8221; compared to what&#8217;s on God&#8217;s &#8220;wish list&#8221; for you?  If you&#8217;re not currently giving a portion of your gross income, I&#8217;d highly encourage you to take your &#8220;wish list&#8221;, even your &#8220;need list&#8221; to God in prayer.</p>

<p>Feel a struggle comin&#8217; on?  I sure do.  Obedience baby!</p>
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