Comments on: FLAT out bad

By: Bobhttp://bobchristenson.com

Bobhttp://bobchristenson.com — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:05:22 +0000

YO…
Here’s my super-duper-delayed response. I hadn’t checked your comments in a while since there were no new blog entries (hint hint )

1. As far as Christ controlling the possiblity of change, I would say this to clarify how I think it works: Christ doesn’t control the change, he helps you to make changes you couldn’t on your own (or despite yourself). So, if my mind is the problem, yet my mind controls the change, in theory, I can’t change, right? Well, that’s where, if you ask Christ to step in, he’s got the ‘override’ key for your mind. He’ll change you despite your mind. He’ll hit the ‘bypass’ button, and go right around it…making the impossible possible. That’s my experience anyway.

So, what happens with parts of you that “aren’t like Christ”? Well, I think that’s not really the right question. I think the right question is: “What happens to parts of you that you don’t ask him to help with”. In reality, hardly any of us is “like Christ” in anyway. But, we can all ask for his help to overcome those obstacles. Make sense? I donno if it did or not….

2. I guess, in terms of the “ending of understanding” I’m talking solely of an intellectual angle….understanding in terms of logic. I think this talks about our good and evil natures fighting, which is really a spiritual fight, not really a ‘logical’ fight. But, what I loved in this, that I think DOES apply is the next verse after 17…

”But when you are directed by the Holy Spirit, you are no longer subject to the law.”

To me, this applies directly to logic. The Spirit (and how He works) isn’t subject to the ‘laws of logic’ ….therefore, when you ask him to come in and help (see #1), he’s able to override logic, your brain, and any other ‘laws’ in order to change who you are and how you think….So, if you try and comprehend this, you will get to the “end of understanding” that I talk about. Because then you’re dealing with “heavenly logic” that has no basis in our earthly understanding.

Thats my 2 cents…

By: Brett

Brett — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:27:03 +0000

Dude that was so deep that I had to read it for 3 days before I could understand it!

Lemme throw a few questions at ja:
- If Christ controls the possibility of change, what does that mean about the parts of you that are not like Christ? Does he not care or are those parts not important? [a baited question to draw that out more]
- How would you contrast the struggle mentioned in Gal 5:17 (you can read the full context here) versus the ENDING of understanding that you mention?

Thanks for the comment and keep 'em coming!

By: Bobhttp://www.bobchristenson.com

Bobhttp://www.bobchristenson.com — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:15:07 +0000

If your mind is the problem, yet your mind is what controls the possibility of change, isn't it impossible to change?

This thought is my largest struggle in life.

And I know why....because the question is incorrect. (not that this knowledge ever stops me from running my mind in circles with the question)

Your mind doesn't control the possiblity of change. Christ does. And letting go of your mind is the impossible part.

Luckily, Christ knew that. Ergo: Death on behalf of our mind. His plan baffles me daily.

Thanks for the good post...helps crazy people feel not so crazy.

ps. i find if something makes my mind run in circles, it's probably not of Christ. Getting to an ENDING of understanding is a different issue...often times I find that's exactly the mark of Christ.